When The Marketing Society's fellows-led conversation series brought together two marketing greats, the resulting discussion delivered raw career truths and practical wisdom that resonated far beyond the virtual room. Keith Weed CBE, former global CMO of Unilever and current chair of multiple boards including WPP and Sainsbury's, joined forces with Becky Brock, Managing Director of Customer at Tesco, for an unvarnished conversation about what it really takes to succeed in modern marketing.
Hosted by Jason Foo, CEO of BBD Perfect Storm, this session was part of The Marketing Society's commitment to sharing the building blocks of great marketing which you can also see in the new The Fellows Fundamentals series. What emerged was an honest exploration of the choices, failures, and principles that shape marketing careers at the highest level.
5 Key Points from the session:
Follow Your Internal Compass, Not External Expectations
Career progression isn't about ticking boxes or meeting others' definitions of success. Becky Brock's principle of following passion and transformation opportunities, even when they seem risky, created a portfolio of experiences that prepared her for senior leadership.
Learn from Failures Through Strategic Humility
Keith Weed's Lynx razors disaster taught him to war-game competitive responses and question his own assumptions. The most valuable career lessons often come from spectacular failures, provided you extract and apply the learning.
Own the Technology Conversation as a Marketer
Rather than delegating technology decisions to IT departments, modern marketing leaders must understand and drive how data flows through systems and platforms. This technical fluency is becoming essential for strategic credibility.
Energy Management Determines Leadership Effectiveness
Your ability to consistently bring energy and possibilities to interactions determines your impact on teams and organisations. This requires deliberate management of physical health, boundaries, and support systems.
Position Yourself as the Voice of the Customer
No matter how senior you become, owning the external perspective and consumer insight keeps marketing central to business strategy. This role becomes more valuable, not less, as you progress in your career.
The Power of Strategic Career Choices
Both speakers challenged the traditional notion of linear career progression, though their approaches differed markedly. Keith Weed's 30-year tenure at Unilever demonstrated the power of depth, where staying within one organisation allowed him to build deep expertise and relationships that still serve him today, 25 years after his most spectacular failure, he still meets every six months with the team that launched the disastrous Lynx razors.
Becky Brock chose a different path, following what she calls her internal compass toward opportunities on the edge of change. From Unilever to luxury spirits, from John Lewis through private equity to Tesco, her moves were guided by three consistent principles: seeking transformation opportunities, embracing blank-sheet challenges, and taking calculated risks that others might avoid.
The key insight from both approaches is intentionality. Whether you stay or move, success comes from making choices based on clear personal values rather than external expectations or conventional career wisdom.
Learning from Spectacular Failures
Keith Weed's candid account of the Lynx razors launch provided one of the session's most valuable lessons. Despite Lynx's dominance in male grooming, 60% market share among adolescent males, and what seemed like a straightforward brand extension opportunity, the launch failed spectacularly. Gillette's asymmetric response, buying up all promotions and flooding the market with competing products, taught Weed never to underestimate established competitors.
"I learned to do much more pre-contested war gaming," Weed reflected. "We got caught up in how brilliant we thought we were, rather than thinking through how tough it could be." The lesson extends beyond marketing tactics to strategic humility, the failure taught him to stress-test assumptions and prepare for competitive retaliation, skills that served him throughout his subsequent success.
This failure also illustrates another crucial point: consumers don't remember your failures, they simply don't see them. This perspective can liberate marketers to take necessary risks, knowing that failed initiatives disappear from market memory while the learning remains invaluable for future success.
The Evolution of Marketing Leadership
Both speakers emphasised how the fundamentals of great marketing remain constant even as tools and channels evolve rapidly. Customer insight remains the foundation, though the methods for gathering and interpreting that insight continue to expand through AI, synthetic audiences, and advanced analytics.
Becky Brock stressed the importance of marketers leading the technology conversation rather than delegating it. "We can't just hand that over to IT or tech and say, 'You do it.' We've got to be the ones to drive it, because we know how we want to use it and how we can drive value."
Keith Weed's approach to continuous learning provides a practical framework for staying current. He invests in startups not just for financial returns but as his "training budget," gaining exposure to companies like iGenie.ai that are using AI to revolutionise traditional market research methodologies. This approach to learning through investment and advisory roles demonstrates how senior marketers can maintain their edge.
3 Takeaways From Keith Weed
Invest in Continuous Learning
Use startup investments, advisory roles, and external exposure as your "training budget" to stay ahead of industry changes and maintain relevance throughout your career.
Build Teams That Outlast Roles
Create relationships so strong that team members continue meeting decades later. The Lynx razors team still gathers every six months, 25 years after their shared failure and success
Be the Person Who Brings the Outside In
Whether in board meetings or team discussions, establish yourself as the source of consumer insight, competitive intelligence, and external trends that inform internal strategy.
Energy Management and Team Building
Both leaders emphasised energy management as crucial to sustained success. Keith Weed's philosophy centres on being a "radiator not a drain," bringing possibilities and opportunities to every interaction. This isn't about forced positivity but about choosing to focus on what's possible rather than what's limiting.
Becky Brock's approach combines personal boundaries with team empowerment. Her non-negotiable morning exercise routine, transparency about personal challenges, and detailed knowledge of her team members' circumstances create an environment where people can perform at their best while maintaining sustainable work-life integration.
The concept extends to team composition. Keith Weed's analogy of the swimming pool captures this perfectly: "It only takes one-third of the swimming pool to poo in it before no one wants to go in and swim." Both leaders stressed the importance of moving quickly when someone isn't aligned with team values, not just for performance reasons but to protect team culture.
Bringing the Outside In
Perhaps the most practical advice for career advancement involved positioning yourself as the person who brings external perspective to internal discussions. Keith Weed's role as the board member who shows up to Sainsbury's executive meetings with screenshots of the customer experience on the Argos app demonstrates this principle in action.
This outside-in perspective becomes increasingly valuable as you progress in your career. Whether it's consumer trends, competitive intelligence, or emerging technologies, marketers can establish themselves as essential by consistently delivering fresh external perspectives that inform internal strategy.
The approach requires genuine curiosity about the world beyond your immediate responsibilities. Keith Weed's advice to "go to someone's house, lock the bathroom door, and see what's in their cupboards" captures the spirit of continuous consumer learning that successful marketers maintain throughout their careers.
3 Takeaways From Becky Brock
Follow Transformation Opportunities
Seek roles where there's a blank sheet of paper and deep problems to solve. Your biggest learning and career acceleration come from challenging situations, not steady-state management.
Know Your Team Intimately
Understand what motivates each person, what they have going on personally, and how to recognise when they're stretched too thin. This enables you to get the best from people while protecting their wellbeing.
Take Calculated Risks Against Conventional Wisdom
Don't let headhunters or external advisors pigeonhole you into obvious next steps. Your best learning often comes from lateral moves that others might question.
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Most people come to work to do a good job. It's your job to bring the best out of them. And if you can get your people to be a little less shit and a little less mediocre and a little bit more brilliant more of the time, that's a huge role you can play as a leader.
Keith Weed
2 Action Items
to take from this...
1. Conduct a Personal Energy Audit:
Identify what gives you energy versus what drains it, then ruthlessly protect the energy-giving activities. Whether it's exercise, learning, or creative time, make these non-negotiable elements of your routine.
2. Establish Your Outside-In Perspective
Choose one external trend, consumer behaviour, or competitive development to monitor consistently. Position yourself as the expert who brings this insight to your team or organisation, creating ongoing strategic value.
This session exemplified The Marketing Society's commitment to sharing practical wisdom from marketing's most accomplished leaders. The honest discussion of failures alongside successes provided actionable insights for marketers at every career stage, proving that authentic leadership conversations create the most valuable learning experiences.
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